tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post1487663392751039371..comments2023-09-09T04:41:25.659-05:00Comments on Tundra Vision: Packers Rebuilding? Not As Crazy As It Sounds...C.D. Angelihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01446881989644895333noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-72230685149586262082010-07-12T21:31:35.713-05:002010-07-12T21:31:35.713-05:00Perhaps 'evolving' would be a better choic...Perhaps 'evolving' would be a better choice of words. And hopefully improving in the process.BigSnakeManhttp://www.pocketdoppler.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-80925058620991957872010-07-11T19:48:09.932-05:002010-07-11T19:48:09.932-05:00If the Packers are rebuilding, then what the hell ...If the Packers are rebuilding, then what the hell are the Bills, Bucs, Lions and Rams are doing?<br /><br />The Packers' aren't replacing their veterans with rookies. In fact, they re-signed their veterans.<br /><br />The "rebuilding" notion is ludicrous. Filling spots with guys that were drafted (not rookies) isn't rebuilding.PackersRSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-50186146395937241012010-07-11T11:53:48.920-05:002010-07-11T11:53:48.920-05:00From my armchair, I can't see a time when the ...From my armchair, I can't see a time when the Packers have ever 'stopped' that <i>rebuilding</i> mode.<br /><br />Seriously. Let's go back to 1996. Didn't the Packers bring in more people to assure there was always a Project needing to be grown into a success? Sure, Wolf was a bit more daring in Free Agency. It's how we ended up with both Reggie White and Brett Favre. Then, Reggie went out and talked other Veterans into coming to Lambeau. Combined with the emergernce of Gilbert Brown in 1993, we all knew it was a matter of time. I just wish they'd have gotten it done in '95 instead of letting Dallas get away with one.<br /><br />My take on Thompson has never changed. Unlike many, I already knew Trader Ted was an immediate improvement over GM Mike Sherman. With Sherman as the guy who picked the players, all I could see was a steady decline in what had once been a great Team and a well-oiled Organization.<br /><br />Was the Board of Directors a bit re-miss in denying Holmgren the chance at wearing both hats? Hard debate, that is. Myself, I prefer to think Holmgren is who shot himself in the foot and should have had more patience, since the Board did eventually give that opportunity to Sherman only a year later. In the end, Holmgren proved he wasn't up to doing both jobs, as Seattle ultimately stripped him.<br /><br />Too bad, too. My friend, HYATT, and I, have debated just how many other SuperBowls the Pack could have pulled off had Mike Holmgren stayed, keeping the Gunslinger "in line"....<br /><br />I remember the count being somewhere around 5 more SuperBowls, possibly 6. We also undertsood Favre would not be the Interception King that he is today, had Holmgren stayed.<br /><br />As it is, I've liked TED since Day One. Reading that he is a very deeply religious man only served to cement that outlook. Didn't Vince Lombardi always stop in the Field Chapel first thing every day? The sad part is how many in the Press seem to thinn they've got license to put labels on GM's in the first place. Especially when they've never worn those shoes personally.<br /><br />No, Ted can hang around until such a time as he sees fit to move on.<br /><br />As far as the Free Agency debate is concerned, I cite Bill Polian as a great comparison. When was the last time he's signed a Free Agent? I don't hear or see 'anyone' damning that guy in the Media. Why the double-standard?IPBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03931852283204108373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-57789720910957846502010-07-11T11:53:18.589-05:002010-07-11T11:53:18.589-05:00From my armchair, I can't see a time when the ...From my armchair, I can't see a time when the Packers have ever 'stopped' that <i>rebuilding</i> mode.<br /><br />Seriously. Let's go back to 1996. Didn't the Packers bring in more people to assure there was always a Project needing to be grown into a success? Sure, Wolf was a bit more daring in Free Agency. It's how we ended up with both Reggie White and Brett Favre. Then, Reggie went out and talked other Veterans into coming to Lambeau. Combined with the emergernce of Gilbert Brown in 1993, we all knew it was a matter of time. I just wish they'd have gotten it done in '95 instead of letting Dallas get away with one.<br /><br />My take on Thompson has never changed. Unlike many, I already knew Trader Ted was an immediate improvement over GM Mike Sherman. With Sherman as the guy who picked the players, all I could see was a steady decline in what had once been a great Team and a well-oiled Organization.<br /><br />Was the Board of Directors a bit re-miss in denying Holmgren the chance at wearing both hats? Hard debate, that is. Myself, I prefer to think Holmgren is who shot himself in the foot and should have had more patience, since the Board did eventually give that opportunity to Sherman only a year later. In the end, Holmgren proved he wasn't up to doing both jobs, as Seattle ultimately stripped him.<br /><br />Too bad, too. My friend, HYATT, and I, have debated just how many other SuperBowls the Pack could have pulled off had Mike Holmgren stayed, keeping the Gunslinger "in line"....<br /><br />I remember the count being somewhere around 5 more SuperBowls, possibly 6. We also undertsood Favre would not be the Interception King that he is today, had Holmgren stayed.<br /><br />As it is, I've liked TED since Day One. Reading that he is a very deeply religious man only served to cement that outlook. Didn't Vince Lombardi always stop in the Field Chapel first thing every day? The sad part is how many in the Press seem to thinn they've got license to put labels on GM's in the first place. Especially when they've never worn those shoes personally.<br /><br />No, Ted can hang around until such a time as he sees fit to move on.<br /><br />As far as the Free Agency debate is concerned, I cite Bill Polian as a great comparison. When was the last time he's signed a Free Agent? I don't hear or see 'anyone' damning that guy in the Media. Why the double-standard?IPBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03931852283204108373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-84463193033092515272010-07-11T11:52:23.265-05:002010-07-11T11:52:23.265-05:00From my armchair, I can't see a time when the ...From my armchair, I can't see a time when the Packers have ever 'stopped' that <i>rebuilding</i> mode.<br /><br />Seriously. Let's go back to 1996. Didn't the Packers bring in more people to assure there was always a Project needing to be grown into a success? Sure, Wolf was a bit more daring in Free Agency. It's how we ended up with both Reggie White and Brett Favre. Then, Reggie went out and talked other Veterans into coming to Lambeau. Combined with the emergernce of Gilbert Brown in 1993, we all knew it was a matter of time. I just wish they'd have gotten it done in '95 instead of letting Dallas get away with one.<br /><br />My take on Thompson has never changed. Unlike many, I already knew Trader Ted was an immediate improvement over GM Mike Sherman. With Sherman as the guy who picked the players, all I could see was a steady decline in what had once been a great Team and a well-oiled Organization.<br /><br />Was the Board of Directors a bit re-miss in denying Holmgren the chance at wearing both hats? Hard debate, that is. Myself, I prefer to think Holmgren is who shot himself in the foot and should have had more patience, since the Board did eventually give that opportunity to Sherman only a year later. In the end, Holmgren proved he wasn't up to doing both jobs, as Seattle ultimately stripped him.<br /><br />Too bad, too. My friend, HYATT, and I, have debated just how many other SuperBowls the Pack could have pulled off had Mike Holmgren stayed, keeping the Gunslinger "in line"....<br /><br />I remember the count being somewhere around 5 more SuperBowls, possibly 6. We also undertsood Favre would not be the Interception King that he is today, had Holmgren stayed.<br /><br />As it is, I've liked TED since Day One. Reading that he is a very deeply religious man only served to cement that outlook. Didn't Vince Lombardi always stop in the Field Chapel first thing every day? The sad part is how many in the Press seem to thinn they've got license to put labels on GM's in the first place. Especially when they've never worn those shoes personally.<br /><br />No, Ted can hang around until such a time as he sees fit to move on.<br /><br />As far as the Free Agency debate is concerned, I cite Bill Polian as a great comparison. When was the last time he's signed a Free Agent? I don't hear or see 'anyone' damning that guy in the Media. Why the double-standard?IPBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03931852283204108373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-61444268104840580532010-07-11T11:52:04.878-05:002010-07-11T11:52:04.878-05:00From my armchair, I can't see a time when the ...From my armchair, I can't see a time when the Packers have ever 'stopped' that <i>rebuilding</i> mode.<br /><br />Seriously. Let's go back to 1996. Didn't the Packers bring in more people to assure there was always a Project needing to be grown into a success? Sure, Wolf was a bit more daring in Free Agency. It's how we ended up with both Reggie White and Brett Favre. Then, Reggie went out and talked other Veterans into coming to Lambeau. Combined with the emergernce of Gilbert Brown in 1993, we all knew it was a matter of time. I just wish they'd have gotten it done in '95 instead of letting Dallas get away with one.<br /><br />My take on Thompson has never changed. Unlike many, I already knew Trader Ted was an immediate improvement over GM Mike Sherman. With Sherman as the guy who picked the players, all I could see was a steady decline in what had once been a great Team and a well-oiled Organization.<br /><br />Was the Board of Directors a bit re-miss in denying Holmgren the chance at wearing both hats? Hard debate, that is. Myself, I prefer to think Holmgren is who shot himself in the foot and should have had more patience, since the Board did eventually give that opportunity to Sherman only a year later. In the end, Holmgren proved he wasn't up to doing both jobs, as Seattle ultimately stripped him.<br /><br />Too bad, too. My friend, HYATT, and I, have debated just how many other SuperBowls the Pack could have pulled off had Mike Holmgren stayed, keeping the Gunslinger "in line"....<br /><br />I remember the count being somewhere around 5 more SuperBowls, possibly 6. We also undertsood Favre would not be the Interception King that he is today, had Holmgren stayed.<br /><br />As it is, I've liked TED since Day One. Reading that he is a very deeply religious man only served to cement that outlook. Didn't Vince Lombardi always stop in the Field Chapel first thing every day? The sad part is how many in the Press seem to thinn they've got license to put labels on GM's in the first place. Especially when they've never worn those shoes personally.<br /><br />No, Ted can hang around until such a time as he sees fit to move on.<br /><br />As far as the Free Agency debate is concerned, I cite Bill Polian as a great comparison. When was the last time he's signed a Free Agent? I don't hear or see 'anyone' damning that guy in the Media. Why the double-standard?IPBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03931852283204108373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-26738272029762462562010-07-10T12:01:30.394-05:002010-07-10T12:01:30.394-05:00"And, the day you stop rebuilding, is the day..."And, the day you stop rebuilding, is the day that you start standing still."<br /><br />Exactly.<br /><br />Change is inevitable. You are either getting better or you are getting worse.<br /><br />I bet it would not be too difficult to put together an argument the the Patriots have been in rebuilding mode for several years now.Rich Beckmanhttp://mytimetowaste.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-35455674267200751022010-07-10T10:51:14.425-05:002010-07-10T10:51:14.425-05:00Unlike many others, I'm not yet ready to anoin...Unlike many others, I'm not yet ready to anoint the Heat as NBA champions. Let's see how that plays out before using it as a template for other franchises, even assuming you can do that across different sports. More often than not, teams are measured by the expectations held for them by the fans. The problem with the approach of the Heat and, say, the Vikings is that anything short of a championship has to be considered a failure. I suppose most people would consider that a positive as far as raising the bar. I'm sure I'm in the minority but I'd rather enjoy the journey as the odds are always stacked against winning it all.BigSnakeMannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-69341143962759051612010-07-10T10:32:20.735-05:002010-07-10T10:32:20.735-05:00And in many ways, I agree. However, you only need...And in many ways, I agree. However, you only need to look at the Miami Heat as a team that has chosen to fill every hole in a high-risk way...certainly the opposite way that Thompson runs the Packers. Now, would I be really happy if we find out Harris is a major question mark this season and the Packers sign Revis in a high-profile contract to replace him? There's the question...do you break from your strategy to fill a glaring hole?C.D. Angelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446881989644895333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-83306274162410754262010-07-10T09:59:01.377-05:002010-07-10T09:59:01.377-05:00A reasonable perspective. I agree that the Packer...A reasonable perspective. I agree that the Packers possess some glaring vulnerabilities that are ultimately going to hold them back. But, looking across the league, I don't see any other teams that don't have some holes somewhere in the lineup. How they compensate for those deficiencies is the key. There's a certain amount of luck involved (injuries, unexpected performances, who you play & when you play them) that often determine the course of a team's season. Having grown up in the 70's, I guess I'd rather see the team remain perpetually competitive and always have a puncher's chance than to see them load up for a short term run & fail.BigSnakeMannoreply@blogger.com