tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post5323236920463281195..comments2023-09-09T04:41:25.659-05:00Comments on Tundra Vision: Bears Trade For Decade of NFC North BasementC.D. Angelihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01446881989644895333noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-33526950138258874162009-04-04T18:28:00.000-05:002009-04-04T18:28:00.000-05:00IPB, thanks for your comments. I've actually been...IPB, thanks for your comments. I've actually been following your stuff for the past several year. I did a year of grad work in West LaFayette (so I followed Brees and Orton, too), so I am rather familiar with the mighty plains of Indiana!<BR/><BR/>As far as both your and ILpackerfans offering that Cutler may indeed be of value as a franchise quarterback, I would certainly be open to the discussion. However, I am far happier right now with a still-developing Aaron Rodgers than what Cutler brings to the table. Based on what he's done on the field, sure he's as solid as anyone. But his antics the past month or so really make me question if he is going to handle that load anymore. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I think teams like the Lions and the Bears could bring in Tom Brady and find a way to mess them up. That stated, I am willing to bet that, in the long run, Orton in Denver will be better than Cutler in Chicago. He's a head case going into a situation with the highest of expectations (given the price they paid for him), and when the criticism falls on him he's going to revert to the form we've seen.<BR/><BR/>As far as TT as GM, well, I've written about him quite a bit. I am always respectful of how he has stuck to his guns and believes what he is doing is the right way to go about it. If he is regarded in the same breath as Wolf ten years from now will remain to be seen. I think this is a critical year for him.<BR/><BR/>And Anonymous, thanks for the correction. I looked at this link http://www.drafthistory.com/teams/vikings.html and didn't notice that the Vikings 2nd pick was in the fifth round. I will make a correction in the main article!C.D. Angelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446881989644895333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-26943480855051193472009-04-04T16:17:00.000-05:002009-04-04T16:17:00.000-05:00Booty was a 5th round pick not a 2ndTavares Jackso...Booty was a 5th round pick not a 2nd<BR/><BR/>Tavares Jackson was a 2nd round pick though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-61669022030760645562009-04-04T11:16:00.000-05:002009-04-04T11:16:00.000-05:00I rarely see you post anything that I disagree wit...I rarely see you post anything that I disagree with much less that I think totally misses the point. The point being the won/loss record and winning. This is a huge step and the most important position on the field and a position where the bears really lacked.<BR/><BR/>The key is what you said about the value of HAVING a franchise QB, obviously you are undervaluing it because you have been spoiled.<BR/><BR/>If you had had the experience of bears fans at QB you would have a very different view.<BR/><BR/>If you try and explain the different sack rates of Favre and Rodgers you would see the impact a QB makes on every position on the field.<BR/><BR/>As for IPB, well wow.<BR/><BR/>Pace is a far better risk to return and play at a high level than tauscher and even if mark comes back the bear OL is better as a whole, has the best individual starter and we have the worst.<BR/><BR/>Comparing Wolf and TT? That conclusion removes any consideration from the post.<BR/><BR/>Wolf targeted players and went and got them and he was usually correct.<BR/><BR/>TT lets other teams dictate what happens then takes left overs.<BR/><BR/>If anyone else had made a serious push for Woodson he would not be a packer - then where would we be?<BR/><BR/>Compare the first 4 years, wins and losses, winning seasons, LOSING seasons, pro bowl players.<BR/><BR/>TT is arguably not even as successful as sherman as a GM when you SELECT CRITERIA and judge them.ILpackerfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726137855294489075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5328789579487679553.post-48240739155277043422009-04-04T09:09:00.000-05:002009-04-04T09:09:00.000-05:00C.D. - I tend to agree with your assessment. Cutl...C.D. - I tend to agree with your assessment. Cutler's behavior appears to be the tantrum tactics of on Bus Cook. I would elaborate, but why waste a good conversation. As far as Cook is concerned, I'm wondering who else he is the Agent for (besides Randy Moss). Poor guys.... I digress.<BR/><BR/>However - I am reading several other websites and getting the drift that Cutler's a good choice, a frnachise QB for 'da bears' and they also now have (Orlando) Pace onboard for QB protection. Now, whether Pace has any gas left in the tank, remains to be seen. He has been injured and no one knows if he'll last even half a season. Yet, he may be the anchor they've been missing. Your thoughts?<BR/><BR/>As far as being glad about TT as our GM, I take the stance that just about anybody besides Mike Sherman (as GM) would be an instant 75% improvement. Thompson's track record measures againsts Ron Wolf quite well in my opinion. The only thing missing, is TT finding another Reggie White. The Reggie White coup is seriously the only difference between the two GM's. Reggie White is also the main reason the Pack won SB31. Since his departure the Pack have yet to get back there. It's always close, but no cigar.<BR/><BR/>da bears did mortgage their future and it benefits the Pack in these next two drafts. The question is: Will Cutler make Wide Receivers out of their current crop when Orton could not. Now, I've always liked Orton. I watched him at Purdue and he did about as well as Drew Brees did during his time there. Although, Orton did beat both Notre Dame and Penn State back-to-back when Brees could not. That being said, over the last few seasons you never got the sense that Lovie Smith was going to give Orton the same unbridled vote of confidence he kept giving Grossman (why, I have no idea). So, without the HC dictating everyone step up, we saw medicore results. For now, the take is "who will Cutler throw to" ... With Pace in the mix, he should conceivably have more time in the pocket to figure that part out. <BR/><BR/>I know this - our Home Opener will be a bit more interesting as long as Dom Capers is well prepared. I was at the 2004 Home Opener when we played da bears with the A-train and watched us lose in convincing fashion. Obviously, it ruined the trip. Still, I got to see all the Legends. I'd hate to see Green Bay keep up this tradition of losing on opening day.IPBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03931852283204108373noreply@blogger.com