Time heals all wounds, so they say.
Breezing through the Packer Blogosphere, there’s precious few days you can go without some headline about Brett Favre, usually accompanied with more conjecture than any confirmed facts. And so it goes, Favre being placed more and more in the crosshairs of Packer fans. He’s a traitor, they say. Spiteful. Disrespectful of all Packer fans.
And he might be. Time will tell the story of Brett Favre, and how this messy divorce will be looked back upon. But if history proves correct, Brett Favre will once again be beloved by Packer fans. It’s just going to take time.
It’s uncommon for any player, coach, or GM to leave on fantastic terms with his team. Usually, for some reason, one of the two parties ends up feeling a little slighted. When a coach is fired for having a poor record, he usually doesn’t agree with the reasoning, and often, the media and fan base don’t remember him with love and adoration, either. Players bolt in free agency, get traded, or are cut as soon as their usefulness is past. Some of the biggest names in Packer history left with some sort of dark cloud following them.
But the bigger the star power, the bigger those emotions become. Ego, power, entitlement, pride: all play a factor in how stars view themselves, how the team treats them, and how the fans regard them. And certainly, Brett Favre had as much star power as anyone.
But perhaps one of the biggest stars in Packer history had one of the ugliest divorces from the team. Curly Lambeau, the team’s founder and winningest coach, engaged in a power struggle with the Packer Board of Directors in the late 40’s and 50’s. His 1946 purchase of the controversial Rockwood Lodge as a training camp site set the tone for the board to start questioning his decisions…something the team’s founder wasn’t used to.
If you think Brett Favre has been “the face of the Packers organization”, imagine how Curly Lambeau had to be regarded. The man organized the team, helped get funding for the team, played for the team, and coached them for over thirty years. And, he was remarkably successful: a 229-134-22 record and six NFL championships.
Curly Lambeau was the man. That is, until the Packers Board watched Lambeau suffer through the 1948 and 1949 seasons with a combined record of 5-19, and pulled off a major coup: for the first time in the Packers’ 31-year history, a coach (and vice-president) was fired. And it wasn’t pretty. The power struggle had gone on for several years, and had become a distraction to the team and the fans.
And Lambeau didn’t leave happy. In fact, he refused to come back to Green Bay for years, even when invited. He was angry at the Packers front office over how he was treated, how he was let go so unceremoniously. He went on to coach two other NFL teams before finally hanging it up three years later, but there was no happy homecoming for Curly Lambeau. He stayed away from Green Bay, and reportedly, he stated that he did not want to be associated with the organization in any way.
As the Packer Board members continued their own internal power struggles throughout the 1950’s, the team on the field also suffered through a revolving door of coaches that left many fans wishing they had Curly back. It wasn’t until 1959 when a new coach finally walked through the door, pounded his fist on the Board table, and stated, “Let’s make one thing clear, I am in charge here.” That man was Vince Lombardi.
But as the Packers enjoyed a Renaissancence in the early 60’s, Lambeau, the father of the Packers, continued his difficult exile from the organization. He was invited back in 1959 for Vince Lombardi’s first game as coach*, but it set up a quiet rivalry between the two. By many accounts, there was no love lost between Curly Lambeau and Vince Lombardi.
A couple years ago outside the Atrium, I was standing near the two statues of Curly and Vince while waiting for some friends before a game. An older gentleman struck up a conversation with me, talking about the irony of the statues standing thirty feet away from each other.
“In life,” he said, “those two would never have gotten that close to each other if they could have helped it.” And now, they are frozen in time together, even though in the early 60’s, it was clear there was some ego and pride running in overdrive on both sides.
Curly had been approached on several occasions by different parties in Green Bay for some sort of honor for his years of service, but Lambeau consistently declined, as he did not want his name associated with the organization.
Curly Lambeau died in 1965 with this kind of relationship still standing with the Packer organization, his own 31 years of founding, coaching, and insuring the prosperity of the franchise marred by pride, hurt feelings, and perhaps, spite.
But on the occasion of his death, the Green Bay Labor Council began a push with the local media to name New City Stadium posthumously after Lambeau. City officials were hesitant, given the previous rebuffs by the man himself. But there was one man who was vehemently opposed to the idea, and spoke out against a “Lambeau Field” many times in public.
That man was Vince Lombardi. Even after Lambeau’s death, the rivalry, spite, and prideful competition continued.
In the end, Lambeau’s family approved of the idea, and a groundswell of support for the man who founded the franchise drowned out the catcalls and naysayers. Today, not only do we visit a stadium named for the once-deposed (and sometimes despised) coach, but we admire his bronzed likeness as you walk in to the Atrium and order a cold beverage at the pub that bears his name.
Pretty good for a guy who was run out of town on a rail, and who swore never to return. People forget those less savory details as time goes on. They remember how important it is to honor your past, especially when it is the past of the greatest football franchise in the NFL. Today, those who write about the ugly rift between Lambeau and the Packers often sweeten it up with a passing “less-than-amicable split” or a “didn’t leave on the best of terms”. In reality, it was an ugly, permanent divorce, involving a man who was more than just the “face of the franchise” for sixteen years.
He was the franchise...for thirty-one years.
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Not too long ago, history again repeated itself. When Reggie White retired from the Packers in 1998, he did some things that caused the Packer organization to slowly distance themselves from their once-glorified player. First, a speech made before the Wisconsin state legislature was characterized as being racist and stereotyping by critics. Then, he made public statements against homosexuality, and appeared in anti-homosexuality ads in his Packer jersey. These actions caused him to receive a reprimand from both the Packers and the NFL for appearing in his jersey without approval, and lost him a TV commentator spot with CBS.
When Reggie White asked for his release in 1999 so that he could un-retire and play for the Carolina Panthers, the Packers didn’t blink an eye and quickly let him go elsewhere. Few seemed to question why he wouldn’t want to come back and play for the Packers (or why the Packers wouldn’t want to make him play with them first). You did not see Reggie White as a regular at Fan Fests or making pre-game sideline appearances. By the time of his death, the Packer Pro Shop no longer carried any White memorabilia or jerseys. There was a quiet rift between the Packers and the player who had brought glory back to Titletown.
But when White passed away in 2004, the Packers couldn’t trip over themselves fast enough to bring White back into the Packer family. Within a year, they had retired his number and placed his name in the Ring of Honor inside Lambeau Field, and enshrined him into the Packer Hall of Fame soon thereafter.
Time heals all wounds.
As we continue to deal with the ugly divorce Brett Favre has had with the Green Bay Packer organization, it is wise to look back on other seemingly immortal Packers who saw the end of their careers end on "less-than-amicable" notes. Most of us today never think twice about Curly’s resentment towards the Packers, or recall White’s exodus from Green Bay. We celebrate them as Packer heroes, men who laid the foundation for today’s Packers to continue to be a part of a storied organization in the NFL.
Someday, Brett Favre will receive the same kind of honors: a retired number, a place in the ring of honor, a plaque in the Packer Hall of Fame, and likely, some sort of permanent fixture inside or outside Lambeau Field. Perhaps another practice field or facility will bear his name in large letters as we drive by in our hovercars twenty years from now. People won't remember Greta, or the $20 million dollars, or the Vikings.
It’s just the way history works.
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* the picture you see is indeed of that visit by Lambeau in 1959, but I also show it for another reason: the young man and woman standing behind Curly are two of the greatest Packer fans I know: my father- and mother-in-law, Bill and Gail Phillips, a newspaper clipping that still hangs on the wall in the Phillips basement today.
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Resources used for this article
The History of the Green Bay Packers: The Shameful Years by Larry D. Names (1995)
Lambeau Field: Green Bay’s National Treasure by The Green Bay Press-Gazette (2003)
Al Breightol, my tour guide on the Lambeau Field Stadium Tour on 5/13/2009 (yes, I did field work to research this article!)
Well done. Very well done.
ReplyDeleteIt's an ugly truth, obviously. No one cares to bring up that part of the past. Call it skeletons in the closet. Thankfully, time allows us the option of only the good memories. And, in most cases, the Media goes along with this preference of the human condition. I call it the double edge of the power sword. If these men didn't have powerful egos, one wonders how often others would have taken orders from them in the first place and what would anyone have accomplished along the way because of it.
In the early years, Favre had Reggie. I don't berate #92 for many of the things he said to the State Congress. He was being very real. There ARE conditions in this Country that could be better, yet people won't try that extra little bit it takes. So, in the beginning Reggie's presence handled the hard issues. After that, maybe Brett finally found he had no choice? Who knows. Everyone has their way. I don't seem to remember Bart Starr needing to play this EGO card. There is more than one way to handle the process.
Alas, IPB...this is why Bart Starr is Bart Starr. He is one of the rare and lucky guys who ended his tenure as a player and a coach on relatively good terms...a testament to what a great, earnest, and humble man he is, since his final playing days weren't pretty, and his coaching tenure was lackluster.
ReplyDeleteMy father-in-law (mentioned in this article) volunteered to drive limousines in Green Bay for the Packer players when they had a huge event several years back, and he had the honor of driving Starr. He said Starr was conversational, genuine, earnest, and offered my FIL autographs, etc...whatever he could do for a great fan.
Great post.
ReplyDeleteInteresting story about Lambeau . . . but comparing Reggie's unretirement with Favre's is a little much.
ReplyDeleteReggie had a couple detractors (and probably still does) but by and large he has always been loved by Packer fans.
Outstanding post.
ReplyDeleteThanks C.D. ...I was lucky enough to see Bart Starr, down here, in May 2006 give a speech for a fundraiser and it is certainly something that EVERY packerfan should take time out to be a part of. He's not flashy, he's not hollywood. He's seriously just one of us. It took a bit of doing, but Bart now has one of our Club Tee-shirts, which I would like to think he might wear now and then. I know I was blown away. I now have a photo, all signed and framed in my Shrine. Hopefully, I'll get to shake the man's hand again before it's too late.
ReplyDeleteLet's hope the more grownup part of this past 18 months becomes the major focus going into the summer. They say Favre is planning to have surgery. I would offer he take that healing and use it against Tiger Woods. Word is, Brett has a very low handicap, and some out in Carmel, CA seem to think he would change the face of golf, if hewalks over to that playing field instead of coming back to the NFL. Who knows.
I know this - Favre on Golf is a win-win situation, not only for him in public, but for his Foundation, and for video games alike. We'll see!
Thanks for the comments, guys. Enjoyed writing it, glad you enjoyed it.
ReplyDeleteDDD, I will admit I debated on whether or not to include White or not in this article...I really thought Lambeau was enough. But, I did include him, not to try and make a direct comparison to Favre, but to provide a more contemporary example of a beloved superstar that ended his career under a dark cloud.
Obviously, White's rift was far less in-your-face than what Favre's situation is, and for different reasons. But, sadly, he died before many of those could be resolved.
I'm sorry, I must have been sleeping when Lambeau was calling the Lions telling them how to beat the Packers. I must have been getting a beer out of the fridge when he went on national TV and denounced the organization as being a bunch of liars.
ReplyDeleteThe comparison between Favre and Lambeau has many differences which are not noted in this very one-sided article. Lambeau was angry at what happened and should have shown more maturity at the end.
But Lambeau FOUNDED the Packers. It was his team. Favre was just a player on it. The two situations are analagous only if your underlying assumption is that Favre WAS the Green Bay Packers.
Hey, Anonymous, good to hear from you again.
ReplyDeleteThere was no intent to compare the actions of Favre with the actions of Lambeau (or White, for that reason). Each person is entitled to their own opinion on each of those topics, and I'm sure you've already detailed your own personal opinions at length (on Favre, at least) elsewhere.
The common thread of all three individuals is that the greats in the Packer organization eventually become legends, even if it appears they burn every bridge on their way out the door. I thought that was expressed rather clearly.
I wonder, Anonymous, if you read without bias...
C.D. - I re-read it again, several times focusing (thinking back, that is) on the events of the Eras, from books and old movies, etc. People's perceptions were different back then and the Media's ability to get the word out is much different now. If this was 1950,and we were dealing with Favre - almost no one else outside of NY and LA, Chicago and maybe a few other bergs, would even be reading this stuff.
ReplyDeleteI would be more interested in the attitude Lombardi had upon leaving. That's the only part that seems lacking.
Otherwise, stick with your gut - Good Article!
I'm with ya, IPB. The idea of ESPN camping outside of Lambeau's house in the 1940's and 1950's and reporting every time he had a bowel movement would probably paint a more clear (or perhaps, a more slanted and/or overblown) version of events.
ReplyDeleteAs for Lombardi, you know...I wasn't more than a babe at the time, and that is one that always kind of made me wonder. Why would he retire and then come back to a different team? Was there an issue there? I honestly have no idea and would have to lean heavily on those who did live through those years.
I suppose I assume (as we do with Lambeau) that is was an amicable split. I wonder if there is more to that story. Too bad Ed Werder wasn't around to camp outside the Lombardi house and let us know, eh? ;-)
Yeah, I love the way that you are sure about things of which you don't have any actual knowledge, like what I may have said elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteReggie White, Vince Lombardi, and Curley Lambeau didn't burn bridges on the way out of town and they didn't actively conspire against the Packers after they left. That's a pretty significant difference, IMO, from the curren situation.
For The Record, I expect that Favre's number will be retired and that he'll be welcomed back into the Packer family at some point in the future AS LONG AS HE DOESN"T DO SOMETHING REALLY STUPID, which is always a possibility with him.
He could help the cause along, if he wanted, by admitting what we all know....he was bitter that the team moved on before he was ready and he lashed out and he shouldn't have said some of the things he said.
But he won't. Much like the Acolytes who revere him, he's not very good at admitting past misdeeds and not very good at taking the high road.
It's going to be a while before this thing has closure. It could be quite a while. How long? It wouldn't surprise me a bit if it takes a decade to resolve.
I was old enough to understand the Lombardi thing at the time.
ReplyDeleteHe had retired as a coach. In those days, you didn't "take a break" like coaches in the major sports do now. Red Auerbach once said that he wished he had just "taken a break" and then gone back to coaching but that wasn't something that was done at that time.
If you've read the Maraniss book, When Pride Still Mattered, the picture that emerges of Lombardi is one of a kind of one-dimensional guy; he wasn't a husband/father/putter around on the lawn kind of guy. He was a driven football coach.
He was also dying. I don't think anybody was aware of that at the time but people close to him could have certainly seen the signs of a guy who was not in good health, although I don't think that played any part in his decision.
He and his wife were East Coast people. They'd spent a decade in the midwest and they wanted to return to their roots. He went to Washington with the blessing of the Packers organization when they released him from his contract.
Fans were sad and disappointed that Lombardi was going to coach elsewhere, but there was no anger directed at him and he didn't throw a bunch of angry bombs at the organization on his way out the door. He didn't "burn any bridges".
Yeah, that sounds about right. If Brett plays for the Vikings it will take about 20 years for the Green Bay faithful to forgive and forget. One wild card in this is Murphy. If he takes this personally, it could be a long time before Favre is welcomed back. He's only 51 years old and most likely will stay president for a while. Look at Herb Kohl and Marques Johnson and their rift. 20 years sounds about right....
ReplyDeleteExcellent post. This should go into the Packer Blogosphere Post HOF on the first ballot.
ReplyDeleteExcellent piece C.D.
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